Well, I have recently recieved my Inburgeringtoets results (Centrale and Praktijk) and I have passed both.
Feel free to ask questions which you can't find answers for at www.inburgeren.nl (and you can find a lot of info there...).
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QUOTE (Anna1986a @ Oct 7 2008, 09:17 PM) 
Well, I have recently recieved my Inburgeringtoets results (Centrale and Praktijk) and I have passed both.
Feel free to ask questions which you can't find answers for at www.inburgeren.nl (and you can find a lot of info there...).
Feel free to ask questions which you can't find answers for at www.inburgeren.nl (and you can find a lot of info there...).
I am glad for you. May I ask which textbooks you studied for the test? and what kinds of questions did they ask in the tests? Thank you for your info.
The book I mainly used was Klare Taal for the grammer and the Telegraaf.nl website for daily reading of news.
Also I bought the Kom Verder book which was quite ok too.
Regarding the exam:
As I said - you can see the type of questions on www.inburgeren.nl
The tests are quite long and varied so there is no point to repeat here att the info you can get on that website.
Log on to www.inburgeren.nl - click on Examen and then see that you have two exams which you need to pass:
a. praktijkexamen (6 x 1 hour exams in my case)
b. centrale examens (3 x 1 hour exams)
I can answer specific questions.
Also I bought the Kom Verder book which was quite ok too.
Regarding the exam:
As I said - you can see the type of questions on www.inburgeren.nl
The tests are quite long and varied so there is no point to repeat here att the info you can get on that website.
Log on to www.inburgeren.nl - click on Examen and then see that you have two exams which you need to pass:
a. praktijkexamen (6 x 1 hour exams in my case)
b. centrale examens (3 x 1 hour exams)
I can answer specific questions.
NINE HOURS worth of exams??? 
My lord, that's brutal! The profieltoets used to be four tests, one hour each (I think), plus the MO toets of another hour...one test per day.
Ah, the good old days...?
Where did you take your lessons? I've never heard of Klare Taal...
My lord, that's brutal! The profieltoets used to be four tests, one hour each (I think), plus the MO toets of another hour...one test per day.
Ah, the good old days...?
Where did you take your lessons? I've never heard of Klare Taal...
QUOTE (Canucky Woman @ Oct 13 2008, 09:25 AM)
NINE HOURS worth of exams???
My lord, that's brutal! The profieltoets used to be four tests, one hour each (I think), plus the MO toets of another hour...one test per day.
Ah, the good old days...?
Where did you take your lessons? I've never heard of Klare Taal...
My lord, that's brutal! The profieltoets used to be four tests, one hour each (I think), plus the MO toets of another hour...one test per day.
Ah, the good old days...?
Where did you take your lessons? I've never heard of Klare Taal...
Klare Taal is just a book :
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/boeken/klare-taal-...OO0020083136bns
And regarding the 9 hours - well it goes like this:
The central exam takes you "1 full day" according to the IB group which is comprised of 3 tests - each taking about 1 hour. The problem of course is that there is some layover time between the tests so the reality is that you arrive at the IB group at say 09:30 and you leave at 15:30.
Quite a long boring day.
And as far as the praktijkexam goes - you have a few options:
1. you can collect evidence (Bewijzen Verzamelen) which is what most people do for contact with the Gemeente, employers, doctors - you need to make a report in Dutch of every such case (so let's say you go to the Gemeente to get a new drivers license - you need to make a report and also have the gemeente clerk fill a report which gives an overview of how the meeting went). You need to collect 30 (Thirty) reports and file them in one protfolio.
2. The quick (and expensive option which costs about 450 Euros) - you have 6 x 1 hour exams which simulate a job interview, a meeting at the Gemeente etc... it's oral, written, reading, telephone conversations etc... you must pass all 6 exams. In the exam room there are three or four people - you, the examiner and 1 or 2 assessors (they don't talk - they just take notes).
The exam is basically a role play - you apply for a job - so you 1st have to read the job offer in a newspaper ad. You answer some questions in writing and then call the contact person (the examiner) - talk on the phone about the job and answer and ask questions about the job, then you have to fill forms for the job and write a small introduction letter. Then you meet the new boss. Then you get to read a letter about how to do your job and you need to answer question both orally and in writing about the job. And then you have to call in sick. and Then fill a sickness form.
There are 6 exams like this with different subjects.
3. A combination of the above so 15 reports + 3 x 1 hour exams
I went for option #2.
That's the story in a nutshell.
QUOTE (anna1986aa @ Oct 13 2008, 11:52 AM)
Klare Taal is just a book :
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/boeken/klare-taal-...OO0020083136bns
And regarding the 9 hours - well it goes like this:
The central exam takes you "1 full day" according to the IB group which is comprised of 3 tests - each taking about 1 hour. The problem of course that the is some layover time between the tests so the reality is that you arrive at the IB group at say 09:30 and you leave at 15:30.
Quite a long boring day.
And as far as the praktijkexam goes - you have a few options:
1. you can collect evidence of (Bewijzen Verzamelen) which is what most people do for contact with the Gemeente, employers, doctors - you need to make a report in Dutch of every such case (so let's say you go to the Gemeente to get a new drivers license - you need to make a report and alos have the gemeente clerk fill a report which gives an overview of how the meeting went). You need to collect 30 (Thirty) reports and file them in one protfolio.
2. The quick (and expensive option which costs about 450 Euros) - you have 6 x 1 hour exams which simulate a job interview, a meeting at the Gemeente etc... it's oral, written, reading, telephone conversations etc... you must pass all 6 exams.
3. A combination of the above so 15 reports + 3 x 1 hour exams
I went for option #2.
That's the story in a nutshell.
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/boeken/klare-taal-...OO0020083136bns
And regarding the 9 hours - well it goes like this:
The central exam takes you "1 full day" according to the IB group which is comprised of 3 tests - each taking about 1 hour. The problem of course that the is some layover time between the tests so the reality is that you arrive at the IB group at say 09:30 and you leave at 15:30.
Quite a long boring day.
And as far as the praktijkexam goes - you have a few options:
1. you can collect evidence of (Bewijzen Verzamelen) which is what most people do for contact with the Gemeente, employers, doctors - you need to make a report in Dutch of every such case (so let's say you go to the Gemeente to get a new drivers license - you need to make a report and alos have the gemeente clerk fill a report which gives an overview of how the meeting went). You need to collect 30 (Thirty) reports and file them in one protfolio.
2. The quick (and expensive option which costs about 450 Euros) - you have 6 x 1 hour exams which simulate a job interview, a meeting at the Gemeente etc... it's oral, written, reading, telephone conversations etc... you must pass all 6 exams.
3. A combination of the above so 15 reports + 3 x 1 hour exams
I went for option #2.
That's the story in a nutshell.
I knew Klare Taal was a book, lol...I just wondered what school used it, as it was a new title from my experience.
I've heard about this new test...I still can't imagine how one would be able to find 15, let alone 30 people willing to fill out reports...or 30 separate situations. I think, if I had the money, I'd opt for #2 as well...
QUOTE (Canucky Woman @ Oct 13 2008, 12:06 PM)
I knew Klare Taal was a book, lol...I just wondered what school used it, as it was a new title from my experience.
I've heard about this new test...I still can't imagine how one would be able to find 15, let alone 30 people willing to fill out reports...or 30 separate situations. I think, if I had the money, I'd opt for #2 as well...
I've heard about this new test...I still can't imagine how one would be able to find 15, let alone 30 people willing to fill out reports...or 30 separate situations. I think, if I had the money, I'd opt for #2 as well...
Ah Ok... I didn't go to any language school - I am kind of a self learner - and have tried convincing my colleagues at work NOT to use English when working with me. This helps a lot.
Hello Anna,
I already did and pass the praktijk examen met assessments and now is the turn for the centrale examens, I only have to do two of the three; Toets Gesproken Nederlands and Elektronisch Praktijkexame.
Could you please give me some more information about these two exams? how difficult they are and how can I prepare myself the best for them?
Thanks!
Carolina
I already did and pass the praktijk examen met assessments and now is the turn for the centrale examens, I only have to do two of the three; Toets Gesproken Nederlands and Elektronisch Praktijkexame.
Could you please give me some more information about these two exams? how difficult they are and how can I prepare myself the best for them?
Thanks!
Carolina
QUOTE (Canucky Woman @ Oct 13 2008, 10:25 AM)
NINE HOURS worth of exams???
My lord, that's brutal! The profieltoets used to be four tests, one hour each (I think), plus the MO toets of another hour...one test per day.
Ah, the good old days...?
Where did you take your lessons? I've never heard of Klare Taal...
My lord, that's brutal! The profieltoets used to be four tests, one hour each (I think), plus the MO toets of another hour...one test per day.
Ah, the good old days...?
Where did you take your lessons? I've never heard of Klare Taal...
9 hours?? Bloody Hell. I hope I get PR during the reprieve before the language requirement is enforced.
QUOTE (mvn @ Dec 16 2008, 07:56 PM)
9 hours?? Bloody Hell. I hope I get PR during the reprieve before the language requirement is enforced.
I know I'll be mailing in my application as soon as my five years are up in 2009...
If you're enrolled in the inburgeringscursis, I recommend you skip the ridiculous portfolio and go for the 6 assessments. I sat for it recently and got it done in less than 30 minutes (I was given 3 hours).
The written parts were an insult to your intelligence and they're not that strict about the speech (grammatical mistakes are fine..just as long they can understand you).
I can't remember everything but there were 2-4 parts in each assessment.
Assessment 1
Make a police report about a break-in
a. Role-play (me: victim, examiner: policeman)
b. Fill out police report
Assessment 2
Another police report (stolen bicycle)
a. Read text and answer questions
b. Fill in police report
Assessment 3
a. Read and answer questions about an energy bill
b. Write down 2 questions I want to ask the company's customer representative
c. Call to state displeasure regarding the bill and ask the 2 questions
Assessment 4
a. Read and answer questions ( position as zorghulp)
b. Write down 2 questions I want to ask regarding said position
c. Call to express interest in the position and ask questions
Assessment 5
In this assessment, I am a truck driver
a. 3 x role play (one with boss, one with HR and one with ARBO-dienst)
b. reading some brochures regarding arbo dienst
Assessment 6
a. Fill in Acceptgiro
I can't remember the rest. I had to pay for something. Probably ncluded more reading and answering questions.
(There were 6 assessments so the ones below might have been part of one of the above)
a. I am a mailroom employee. I have to leave early because of urgent business. I have to tell my colleague that I have to leave and that I need him to complete some of my tasks.
b. Write a note asking colleague to order 3 things (x 10)from some pictures.
c. Read a work contract. Answer questions regarding hours I need to work, what kind of contract I have etc. Write down 2 questions which I have to ask HR (role play).
The written parts were an insult to your intelligence and they're not that strict about the speech (grammatical mistakes are fine..just as long they can understand you).
I can't remember everything but there were 2-4 parts in each assessment.
Assessment 1
Make a police report about a break-in
a. Role-play (me: victim, examiner: policeman)
b. Fill out police report
Assessment 2
Another police report (stolen bicycle)
a. Read text and answer questions
b. Fill in police report
Assessment 3
a. Read and answer questions about an energy bill
b. Write down 2 questions I want to ask the company's customer representative
c. Call to state displeasure regarding the bill and ask the 2 questions
Assessment 4
a. Read and answer questions ( position as zorghulp)
b. Write down 2 questions I want to ask regarding said position
c. Call to express interest in the position and ask questions
Assessment 5
In this assessment, I am a truck driver
a. 3 x role play (one with boss, one with HR and one with ARBO-dienst)
b. reading some brochures regarding arbo dienst
Assessment 6
a. Fill in Acceptgiro
I can't remember the rest. I had to pay for something. Probably ncluded more reading and answering questions.
(There were 6 assessments so the ones below might have been part of one of the above)
a. I am a mailroom employee. I have to leave early because of urgent business. I have to tell my colleague that I have to leave and that I need him to complete some of my tasks.
b. Write a note asking colleague to order 3 things (x 10)from some pictures.
c. Read a work contract. Answer questions regarding hours I need to work, what kind of contract I have etc. Write down 2 questions which I have to ask HR (role play).
QUOTE (mei @ Jan 22 2009, 03:38 PM)
If you're enrolled in the inburgeringscursis, I recommend you skip the ridiculous portfolio and go for the 6 assessments. I sat for it recently and got it done in less than 30 minutes (I was given 3 hours).
The written parts were an insult to your intelligence and they're not that strict about the speech (grammatical mistakes are fine..just as long they can understand you).
I can't remember everything but there were 2-4 parts in each assessment.
Assessment 1
Make a police report about a break-in
a. Role-play (me: victim, examiner: policeman)
b. Fill out police report
Assessment 2
Another police report (stolen bicycle)
a. Read text and answer questions
b. Fill in police report
Assessment 3
a. Read and answer questions about an energy bill
b. Write down 2 questions I want to ask the company's customer representative
c. Call to state displeasure regarding the bill and ask the 2 questions
Assessment 4
a. Read and answer questions ( position as zorghulp)
b. Write down 2 questions I want to ask regarding said position
c. Call to express interest in the position and ask questions
Assessment 5
In this assessment, I am a truck driver
a. 3 x role play (one with boss, one with HR and one with ARBO-dienst)
b. reading some brochures regarding arbo dienst
Assessment 6
a. Fill in Acceptgiro
I can't remember the rest. I had to pay for something. Probably ncluded more reading and answering questions.
(There were 6 assessments so the ones below might have been part of one of the above)
a. I am a mailroom employee. I have to leave early because of urgent business. I have to tell my colleague that I have to leave and that I need him to complete some of my tasks.
b. Write a note asking colleague to order 3 things (x 10)from some pictures.
c. Read a work contract. Answer questions regarding hours I need to work, what kind of contract I have etc. Write down 2 questions which I have to ask HR (role play).
The written parts were an insult to your intelligence and they're not that strict about the speech (grammatical mistakes are fine..just as long they can understand you).
I can't remember everything but there were 2-4 parts in each assessment.
Assessment 1
Make a police report about a break-in
a. Role-play (me: victim, examiner: policeman)
b. Fill out police report
Assessment 2
Another police report (stolen bicycle)
a. Read text and answer questions
b. Fill in police report
Assessment 3
a. Read and answer questions about an energy bill
b. Write down 2 questions I want to ask the company's customer representative
c. Call to state displeasure regarding the bill and ask the 2 questions
Assessment 4
a. Read and answer questions ( position as zorghulp)
b. Write down 2 questions I want to ask regarding said position
c. Call to express interest in the position and ask questions
Assessment 5
In this assessment, I am a truck driver
a. 3 x role play (one with boss, one with HR and one with ARBO-dienst)
b. reading some brochures regarding arbo dienst
Assessment 6
a. Fill in Acceptgiro
I can't remember the rest. I had to pay for something. Probably ncluded more reading and answering questions.
(There were 6 assessments so the ones below might have been part of one of the above)
a. I am a mailroom employee. I have to leave early because of urgent business. I have to tell my colleague that I have to leave and that I need him to complete some of my tasks.
b. Write a note asking colleague to order 3 things (x 10)from some pictures.
c. Read a work contract. Answer questions regarding hours I need to work, what kind of contract I have etc. Write down 2 questions which I have to ask HR (role play).
Thanks for the insight
and Congratulations
I shall very much appreciate some tips for "Toets Gesproken Nederlands" (TGN) I have to take this exam as a part of my Inburgeringsexam and the only material I know is the Naar Nederland packet that people coming from outside Netherlands use to give the test at the Dutch Consulate. I understand that TGN given outside Netherlands is much easier than the one given here from the IB Group. Could someone please give me some tips?
Alvast Bedankt
Alvast Bedankt
QUOTE (Anna1986a @ Oct 7 2008, 09:17 PM)
Well, I have recently recieved my Inburgeringtoets results (Centrale and Praktijk) and I have passed both.
Feel free to ask questions which you can't find answers for at www.inburgeren.nl (and you can find a lot of info there...).
Feel free to ask questions which you can't find answers for at www.inburgeren.nl (and you can find a lot of info there...).
Thanks for being so helpful.
I've a question here.
1) Do you have to do some "volunteer work" like I have to? I am told its for part of the Praktijk exam.
I am told that I have to find a work for a period of 3 to 6 months about 36 hours or more ( I am unsure of the exact hours I've to do)
I'm just curious if this is the national requirement for passing the exam or just from my language school, Agens?
Frankly, I am quite bitter that now I'll be "forced" to work for "gratis" when I'd quitted my real job with a salary and choose to stay at home to look after my kid.
Advise please. Thank you.
QUOTE (anna1986aa @ Oct 13 2008, 11:52 AM)
Klare Taal is just a book :
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/boeken/klare-taal-...OO0020083136bns
And regarding the 9 hours - well it goes like this:
The central exam takes you "1 full day" according to the IB group which is comprised of 3 tests - each taking about 1 hour. The problem of course is that there is some layover time between the tests so the reality is that you arrive at the IB group at say 09:30 and you leave at 15:30.
Quite a long boring day.
And as far as the praktijkexam goes - you have a few options:
1. you can collect evidence (Bewijzen Verzamelen) which is what most people do for contact with the Gemeente, employers, doctors - you need to make a report in Dutch of every such case (so let's say you go to the Gemeente to get a new drivers license - you need to make a report and also have the gemeente clerk fill a report which gives an overview of how the meeting went). You need to collect 30 (Thirty) reports and file them in one protfolio.
2. The quick (and expensive option which costs about 450 Euros) - you have 6 x 1 hour exams which simulate a job interview, a meeting at the Gemeente etc... it's oral, written, reading, telephone conversations etc... you must pass all 6 exams. In the exam room there are three or four people - you, the examiner and 1 or 2 assessors (they don't talk - they just take notes).
The exam is basically a role play - you apply for a job - so you 1st have to read the job offer in a newspaper ad. You answer some questions in writing and then call the contact person (the examiner) - talk on the phone about the job and answer and ask questions about the job, then you have to fill forms for the job and write a small introduction letter. Then you meet the new boss. Then you get to read a letter about how to do your job and you need to answer question both orally and in writing about the job. And then you have to call in sick. and Then fill a sickness form.
There are 6 exams like this with different subjects.
3. A combination of the above so 15 reports + 3 x 1 hour exams
I went for option #2.
That's the story in a nutshell.
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/boeken/klare-taal-...OO0020083136bns
And regarding the 9 hours - well it goes like this:
The central exam takes you "1 full day" according to the IB group which is comprised of 3 tests - each taking about 1 hour. The problem of course is that there is some layover time between the tests so the reality is that you arrive at the IB group at say 09:30 and you leave at 15:30.
Quite a long boring day.
And as far as the praktijkexam goes - you have a few options:
1. you can collect evidence (Bewijzen Verzamelen) which is what most people do for contact with the Gemeente, employers, doctors - you need to make a report in Dutch of every such case (so let's say you go to the Gemeente to get a new drivers license - you need to make a report and also have the gemeente clerk fill a report which gives an overview of how the meeting went). You need to collect 30 (Thirty) reports and file them in one protfolio.
2. The quick (and expensive option which costs about 450 Euros) - you have 6 x 1 hour exams which simulate a job interview, a meeting at the Gemeente etc... it's oral, written, reading, telephone conversations etc... you must pass all 6 exams. In the exam room there are three or four people - you, the examiner and 1 or 2 assessors (they don't talk - they just take notes).
The exam is basically a role play - you apply for a job - so you 1st have to read the job offer in a newspaper ad. You answer some questions in writing and then call the contact person (the examiner) - talk on the phone about the job and answer and ask questions about the job, then you have to fill forms for the job and write a small introduction letter. Then you meet the new boss. Then you get to read a letter about how to do your job and you need to answer question both orally and in writing about the job. And then you have to call in sick. and Then fill a sickness form.
There are 6 exams like this with different subjects.
3. A combination of the above so 15 reports + 3 x 1 hour exams
I went for option #2.
That's the story in a nutshell.
Oh, I get it...they want us all to leave!!!
We are using Klaar Taal at the Ooverbrugge in Waalwijk. It's a good textbook...
I sat for the central exam last week and found out I passed today. It was very easy. I didn't go for a course and didn't use any textbook (although I did have some hand-outs from the ROC).
The Electronisch Praktijkexamen Niveau A2 (Werk) was very simple. The answers were pretty obvious and all answers can be found in the video/advertisement and so on.
The Toets Gesproken Nederlands was also very easy. The hardest part for me was the "short story" because I couldn't remember what happened (it was about 8-10 sentences) and we weren't allowed to write it down while the story was being told. I don't remember the 2nd story but the first was about a small boy who wanted to go swimming alone. The entrance fee was 4 euro but the little boy only had 2.80. He was very sad. An old man took pity and gave him 1.20..and that's about all I can recall!
Kennis Nederlandse Samenleving was a little tricky as I had no clue about bouwvergunning and things like that. One of the questions I remember is:
Ali has a sore throat. He would like his wife to call the doctor. What would be best?
A. You can buy 'hoestdrank' from the drugstore (apotheek).
B. It will go away after a few days.
C. Get a prescription from a doctor.
Another one:
Ali has a daughter (can't remember her name- let's call her Miriam) and she has a Dutch boyfriend. She wants to go to his house alone. Ali doesn't like this. What is the best thing for him to do?
A. Find her another boyfriend (photo of a smiling Muslim youth)
B. Let her go as her brother (Mo) has done the same with his girlfriend
C. Allow her to go only if there's a family member present
Next stop for me: NT2
The Electronisch Praktijkexamen Niveau A2 (Werk) was very simple. The answers were pretty obvious and all answers can be found in the video/advertisement and so on.
The Toets Gesproken Nederlands was also very easy. The hardest part for me was the "short story" because I couldn't remember what happened (it was about 8-10 sentences) and we weren't allowed to write it down while the story was being told. I don't remember the 2nd story but the first was about a small boy who wanted to go swimming alone. The entrance fee was 4 euro but the little boy only had 2.80. He was very sad. An old man took pity and gave him 1.20..and that's about all I can recall!
Kennis Nederlandse Samenleving was a little tricky as I had no clue about bouwvergunning and things like that. One of the questions I remember is:
Ali has a sore throat. He would like his wife to call the doctor. What would be best?
A. You can buy 'hoestdrank' from the drugstore (apotheek).
B. It will go away after a few days.
C. Get a prescription from a doctor.
Another one:
Ali has a daughter (can't remember her name- let's call her Miriam) and she has a Dutch boyfriend. She wants to go to his house alone. Ali doesn't like this. What is the best thing for him to do?
A. Find her another boyfriend (photo of a smiling Muslim youth)
B. Let her go as her brother (Mo) has done the same with his girlfriend
C. Allow her to go only if there's a family member present
Next stop for me: NT2
Long-short, Time is running out on me.
I arrived on Koninginnedag 5 years ago, but I didn't have my first interview for 2 months? I think, and I didn't actually get my paper work till 8 MONTHS (November) later.
So I don't know when I have to have everything.
The most annoying part is that I PASSED the inbuggering test, but I was only testing at NT 1,5 (later above 2) but because the "official" result was 1,5, my exam was considered null!!!!!
I hate deltion... does it show?
I don't know what tests I have to take, everything keeps changing on me, and it's all so confusing!
I'm reasonably confident I can pass the NT2, or whatever the equiv now is, but it's the inbuggering, going over what diensten to go to for what, that I have little idea about.
I am grateful for this topic, especially now.
Has anyone else passed their staatsexamen recently?
I arrived on Koninginnedag 5 years ago, but I didn't have my first interview for 2 months? I think, and I didn't actually get my paper work till 8 MONTHS (November) later.
So I don't know when I have to have everything.
The most annoying part is that I PASSED the inbuggering test, but I was only testing at NT 1,5 (later above 2) but because the "official" result was 1,5, my exam was considered null!!!!!
I hate deltion... does it show?
I don't know what tests I have to take, everything keeps changing on me, and it's all so confusing!
I'm reasonably confident I can pass the NT2, or whatever the equiv now is, but it's the inbuggering, going over what diensten to go to for what, that I have little idea about.
I am grateful for this topic, especially now.
Has anyone else passed their staatsexamen recently?
QUOTE (utakubeta @ Mar 25 2009, 12:24 PM)
I'm reasonably confident I can pass the NT2, or whatever the equiv now is, but it's the inbuggering, going over what diensten to go to for what, that I have little idea about.
You'd probably pass the Korte Vrijstellingstoets then. That would be good enough.
If they aren't sending you official letters demanding that you show up for an intake, stay under the wire, and just find a test to do, either KV or staatsexamen...You've finished your inbuggering obligation under the old rules just by showing up and doing the profieltoets, but convincing those quota-hungry bureaucrats is an uphill battle.
QUOTE (Canucky Woman @ Mar 25 2009, 12:35 PM)
You'd probably pass the Korte Vrijstellingstoets then. That would be good enough.
If they aren't sending you official letters demanding that you show up for an intake, stay under the wire, and just find a test to do, either KV or staatsexamen...You've finished your inbuggering obligation under the old rules just by showing up and doing the profieltoets, but convincing those quota-hungry bureaucrats is an uphill battle.
If they aren't sending you official letters demanding that you show up for an intake, stay under the wire, and just find a test to do, either KV or staatsexamen...You've finished your inbuggering obligation under the old rules just by showing up and doing the profieltoets, but convincing those quota-hungry bureaucrats is an uphill battle.
Yes, and that's what worried me *shiver*
I haven't gotten any letters.
I think a reminder a while back, but nothing saying im going to be put on a plane any time soon.
I don't know.
I've asked my wife to find this information out as the gemeente can be prick-ish about giving information in english, and I don't have the time - being at work.
QUOTE (utakubeta @ Mar 25 2009, 01:04 PM)
Yes, and that's what worried me *shiver*
I haven't gotten any letters.
I think a reminder a while back, but nothing saying im going to be put on a plane any time soon.
I don't know.
I've asked my wife to find this information out as the gemeente can be prick-ish about giving information in english, and I don't have the time - being at work.
I haven't gotten any letters.
I think a reminder a while back, but nothing saying im going to be put on a plane any time soon.
I don't know.
I've asked my wife to find this information out as the gemeente can be prick-ish about giving information in english, and I don't have the time - being at work.
Meh...don't give those guys any more power than necessary. All you want to do is prove enough fluency to get citizenship, and they'll leave you alone.
Just research the tests, take one and flash the results in their faces if they give you grief, that's all. No need for the wife to talk to the gemeente, and it's a waste of time because they don't know a damned thing.
http://www.ib-groep.nl/ (site appears to be down right now)
QUOTE (Canucky Woman @ Mar 25 2009, 01:15 PM)
Meh...don't give those guys any more power than necessary. All you want to do is prove enough fluency to get citizenship, and they'll leave you alone.
Just research the tests, take one and flash the results in their faces if they give you grief, that's all. No need for the wife to talk to the gemeente, and it's a waste of time because they don't know a damned thing.
http://www.ib-groep.nl/ (site appears to be down right now)
Just research the tests, take one and flash the results in their faces if they give you grief, that's all. No need for the wife to talk to the gemeente, and it's a waste of time because they don't know a damned thing.
http://www.ib-groep.nl/ (site appears to be down right now)
Well she just got back to me.
For whatever reason, I don't have to take the test will June 2012... which is a HUGE relief...
But I'm not going to hope for a saner government to eliminate this insane ruling. it seems like every government is more conservative than the last!
I'm going to try to take care of all this this year, then i'll just be DONE with it.
I'm also debating if I should start training for the driving test in English or in Dutch.
I have chosen to dive under the water for the time being about the language test. I don't know what that means in the years to come as the Dutch political power changes.
You can have your driving training in many languages (Chinese, arabic, Italian....), but you have to choose to take your training test in English or Dutch. I remember they charge a bit higher fee for test in English than in Dutch. In the written test you will work with a screen that you share with a few others around you. There is a time limit to answer every question that is shown in the screen. I'm not sure if you can go back to the questions you have doubt or not. Anyway, it is a time limit, so if your Dutch level is not good enough, you have a disadvantage of it. As far as the foreigners I know, all of them chose English, because the aim is to pass the exam, not to show off your knowledge of Dutch.
You can have your driving training in many languages (Chinese, arabic, Italian....), but you have to choose to take your training test in English or Dutch. I remember they charge a bit higher fee for test in English than in Dutch. In the written test you will work with a screen that you share with a few others around you. There is a time limit to answer every question that is shown in the screen. I'm not sure if you can go back to the questions you have doubt or not. Anyway, it is a time limit, so if your Dutch level is not good enough, you have a disadvantage of it. As far as the foreigners I know, all of them chose English, because the aim is to pass the exam, not to show off your knowledge of Dutch.
darn it!
i was getting all positive about doing inburgering.
now i am not so sure.
i was getting all positive about doing inburgering.
now i am not so sure.
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