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Jul 4 2008, 11:25 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 3-September 07 From: Netherlands Member No.: 61,616 |
Dear all,
My brother (non EU citizen) got a job offer in the Netherlands, the company is ready to arrange a permit for him. Are there differences if he comes here as a knowledge migrant or just with a simple work permit, which one has an advantage in the case if he will like to stay here forever? Every advice and comment will be highly appreciated. Thanks! -------------------- Sona
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Jul 4 2008, 11:54 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 16-February 05 Member No.: 20,723 |
Hi Sona,
Processing time for knowledge migrant are quite faster than standart wor permit. If his condition fits with it. He can apply for Dutch passport after 5 years. KM is also given for 5 years. KM can work only some approved companies. Regards, Dear all, My brother (non EU citizen) got a job offer in the Netherlands, the company is ready to arrange a permit for him. Are there differences if he comes here as a knowledge migrant or just with a simple work permit, which one has an advantage in the case if he will like to stay here forever? Every advice and comment will be highly appreciated. Thanks! |
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Jul 6 2008, 09:20 AM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,829 Joined: 16-November 03 From: Den Haag Member No.: 45,114 |
Work Permit (older scheme):
- is based on you being a 'scarce resource'. Meaning your company has had a hard time finding resources/skilled people to take the job - so they have to get permission with the CWI to look for people outside of the EU and provide them working permits. These jobs usually pay well but there is no salary level requirement. Your company has to have already signed up to have your job listed as such in advance - should clear within 5 weeks - lasts 3 years (based on the job). If you change jobs within those 3 years, your new company has to apply for a new working permit. After 3 years you are free to work at any company you like without getting a Working Permit as you get a TVV Niet Verist (sp?) on the back of your Residence permit. (The KM permit does not have this option) - You apply for a Residence Permit separately on your own. This Residence Permit has to be renewed every year until you hit your 5th year here. Then you can apply for a Dutch Passport (if you don't mind letting your home passport go). Or you can keep your home passport but you can apply for a Dutch Permanent Residence Permit which now doubles as an EU Permanent Residence Permit. This means you can live/work anywhere within the EU. Knowledge Worker Permit: - is based on your salary level. If it is high (I don't know the number) your company can apply for this permit for you, You don't have to have specialized skills - it's just how high of a salary you will receive. - should clear fast - but no clue as to how fast - lasts 5 years but again is tied to the particular job. So if you change jobs, this has to be applied for again - The Residence Permit is bundled into the KM permit - so you don't have to apply for it separately on your own. - Again after 5 years you can apply for the Dutch passport or a Dutch/EU permanent residence permit. The big question is: Is your company designating you as a 'scarce resource' or Is your company paying you a high salary. These are the 2 criteria that determines [b]which permit you should apply for.[/b] Make sure your company is clear about which permit they should apply for or else you will be rejected. Then everyone is confused as to why you got rejected and you have to start all over again ... with a lawyers advice unless you have figured it out. -------------------- If not now .... when?
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Jul 10 2008, 09:27 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 3-September 07 From: Netherlands Member No.: 61,616 |
Hi Sona, Processing time for knowledge migrant are quite faster than standart wor permit. If his condition fits with it. He can apply for Dutch passport after 5 years. KM is also given for 5 years. KM can work only some approved companies. Regards, -------------------- Sona
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Jul 10 2008, 10:21 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 3-September 07 From: Netherlands Member No.: 61,616 |
Thanks on this!
Another thing - is there a way to extend a tourist visa for another 3 months or is it possible to ask for a residence permit for a parent who came for a “visiting family” reason? Or is there chance to get an MVV for a parent who depends on you and who is alone but younger than 65? Please help with ideas!!! -------------------- Sona
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Jul 10 2008, 03:31 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,829 Joined: 16-November 03 From: Den Haag Member No.: 45,114 |
Hi, I don't know anything about extending a tourist visa. What country are you from? If you are from The States (at least) you can stay here for up to 3 months with no paperwork at all. Just a long vacation. After 3 months - you are supposed to leave or you will be here illegally. The police won't come looking for you but if something goes wrong - an accident etc - they will check your passport entry stamp and then you will be discovered. If you are from Austraila - they offer a Working Holiday visa - but I don't know how that works. I am sure you can't ask for a residence permit for a parent? Umm what would be the basis of it? Like I said, you can only get a residence permit from a Dutch/EU partner as your sponsor or from a job. I don't know anything about an MVV as they are not required if you are from The States which is where I am from. If you are trying to get a parent over here - I don't know if that is possible. Parents that have children often can't even get their children to join them here! You should know - taking up residence here is highly desirable and LOTs of families with children and spouses are spit up due to the regulations. That's all I know! B. -------------------- If not now .... when?
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Jul 10 2008, 06:16 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,326 Joined: 23-July 07 From: Randstad Member No.: 58,494 |
Thanks on this! Another thing - is there a way to extend a tourist visa for another 3 months or is it possible to ask for a residence permit for a parent who came for a “visiting family” reason? Or is there chance to get an MVV for a parent who depends on you and who is alone but younger than 65? Please help with ideas!!! According to your expatica member profile you are a Non EU citizen. If this information is true, your tourist visa can NOT be extended. You will have to leave. You can NOT obtain a RP for a parent who came to the NL for whatever reason. You can NOT obtain a MVV for a parent who is alone and depends on you. There are no ideas available. I'm sorry, but that's the sad truth and telling another story would not be helpful. |
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Jul 11 2008, 12:14 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 3-September 07 From: Netherlands Member No.: 61,616 |
I'm non EU citizen but I'm married to a Dutch man, and will be able to get a dutch passport next year (I have done inburgering). Will this help?
-------------------- Sona
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Jul 11 2008, 12:16 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 3-September 07 From: Netherlands Member No.: 61,616 |
Ja and I have a job for an indefinite period.
-------------------- Sona
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Jul 11 2008, 10:34 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,487 Joined: 17-December 04 Member No.: 18,339 |
Ja and I have a job for an indefinite period. Right, well i have a friend who has gotten a multiple entry multiple year visit visa for her mother but that was after several yearly visits was it offered to her. Clearly they don't advertise it so the only way to get it is to ask whoever is issuing the visa and to explain why you want it with such parameters. |
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Jul 11 2008, 11:16 AM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,829 Joined: 16-November 03 From: Den Haag Member No.: 45,114 |
Ja and I have a job for an indefinite period. Yes, she can 'visit' here. Anyone can visit but like I said, it get's down to 'sponsorship' if she wants to live here. It does not matter that you have a job or that she 'needs' your support. The IND here will not be concerned that your mother needs your help. You should be clear about this. Like I said .. even parents have trouble getting their CHILDREN a residence permit to live here. Children trump Parents. Bottom limne - someone has gotta sponsor your mother for a Residence pemit in order for her to 'live' here legally with health insurance etc to basically function here. 1. Either a company has to hire - thus sponsor her or 2. A Dutch/EU person (maybe you) must sponsor her under the 'family reunification' option. However, this usually applies to the 'nuclear' family - meaning husband/wife/children. I've never heard of a mother being included in this scheme... so I don't hold much hope in this direction. You need need to read the www.ind.nl site to see what it says. -------------------- If not now .... when?
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