Yesterday (June 25, 2008) at 6:09 pm, I posted a response to the article:
New trick up paedophiles’ sleeves
Paedophiles are using a new computer technique to trick and sexually blackmail children.
Originally, that article was at:
http://www.expatica.com/nl/articles/news/N...s_-sleeves.html
Grab a copy now, because apparently it is not in the interest of the management of Expatica to allow such information to disseminate.

In my response, I provided evidence that the Dutch authorities (and others, among whom, I now include the editors of Expatica) attempt to manipulate people and information dealing with paedophiles (pedophiles), and one of the links in support of this claim was to the following: http://dutchpedreport.antidutch.com/ at which you will see a real-life example of this, and one that you will probably recognize (if you live in the Randstadt).

My response generated another response (from emilio416) at 6:26 pm.

Today, when I checked my email, I was notified of that response. I clicked on the link to read the response but found that not only had my response been removed, but also the response to my response. Thus, I was unable to read emilio416's response (and so are you).

No explanation was given. The truth was simply censored away into oblivion.

I'm not going to repost my initial innocuous response, a response at which no one could possibly find fault or take offense, because I've lived in the Netherlands for ten years and I know the way things work in your country.

People of the Netherlands: you do not have freedom of speech. Your information is censored, even by the editors of Expatica. For some reason, none of these people "in control" want you to know the truth.

I hope you realize that everything you read here in the Forum has been carefully screened and edited by the staff (and perhaps by your government) to force you to see the world in a certain way, and that way is far from reality. For every message like this one that "get's through" (if it does), there are hundreds of voices not being heard, not out of any decision of yours "to read, or not to read," but rather, by nameless, faceless cowards armed with "delete keys" and worse, whose intent is to manipulate the way you think by removing the truth from the set of possibilities you are offered to choose from in making that very decision: "to read, or not to read."

In the United States, we do have freedom of speech. Nothing like this could happen. We had to have a revolution to make this happen, and we had to establish laws so that people like the editors of Expatica could NOT manipulate us by editing the truth out of the media, and that they would be held accountable if they did. But let's pretend, for a moment, that it wasn't the editors of Expatica, but rather, some functionary of the government of the Netherlands. Even in that case, in the United States, we stand up against such despots and we expect the editors of our media to stand up against them as well.

Wise Up! It may be time for you to start thinking along these lines, too. If only to stopped being propagandized by your media.

Chris
blogger at AntiDutch.com

I don't think it's about your freedom of speech in the Netherlands, it's about your freedom to post total crap on an internet forum. If you want to know why it was removed, it was probably because a poster objected and reported your post; I know that I did, not sure if others did too. The board is moderated by expats, not dutchies. How far does your paranoia stretch? You address 'people of the Netherlands' like you are some kind of newage messiah, but *hello!* this is a board of expats (aka. non-Dutch).

You did not type 'the truth'. You typed lies. You said that 20% of dutch parents were peados and raised their kids to accept this as normal. I'm not dutch but I found that extremely insulting.

You are here to plug your book, and you will use whatever made up b**lsh*t statistics you make up and quote them as facts. The fact that you have reposted because you feel you have rights to do this just shows what a total jerk you are.



That's because the tablets that your doctor gave you are starting to work. Eventually, you won't hear any at all, just keep taking them. Now go away and be an idiot on someone elses forum please? For the record, I'm reporting this post too. Hopefully the admin will ban you this time.






It's a shame you didn't post that part about your unbiased media in the Soapbox forum, people could have had some real fun with you, troll.

In the United States, we do have freedom of speech. Nothing like this could happen. We had to have a revolution to make this happen, and we had to establish laws so that people like the editors of Expatica could NOT manipulate us by editing the truth out of the media, and that they would be held accountable if they did. But let's pretend, for a moment, that it wasn't the editors of Expatica, but rather, some functionary of the government of the Netherlands. Even in that case, in the United States, we stand up against such despots and we expect the editors of our media to stand up against them as well.

Haven't been paying much attention to the new laws over the pat few years have we?

Bytehoven, you are clearly in need of psychiatric treatment. I suggested that the last time you were here and I'm saying it again.

You are clearly losing grip on reality. The story you wrote on your blog about meeting an Arab man on a Dutch train who told you that his job was to kidnap and murder American women is about as bizarre a thing as I've ever read. The fact that you claim that this man confessed to being a serial murder just five minutes after meeting you is weird enough, but that you expect the reading public to actually believe this story beggars belief.

Your insane story about 1 - in - 5 Dutch people being paedophiles is another case in point. The alleged 'evidence' you cite for this story leads only to a dead link. Didn't you notice? I mean how much have you got going on in your life that you didn't notice that the star story on the blog you are promoting so heavily is a non starter?

Get help, and get it quickly - stop wasting time spreading lies on sites like this.

Apparently, that's rather old news...

Webcam takeover warning is old news
Monday 23 June 2008

All the Dutch papers and their websites were quick to cover a warning from the Mijn Kind Online foundation (which promotes safe internet use) on Monday that paedophiles had discovered a new way of compromising Dutch children.

By sending an email with an attachment containing a 'Trojan horse' – a type of virus – paedophiles can take control of a child's computer, and even take photographs of them via their webcam.

The organisation says on its website that the warning comes from police and justice ministry officials but says 'little is known' about the Dutch incidents. The Telegraaf simply states that 'one case' in the Netherlands is known to police. NOS says girls aged 11 to 15 have been blackmailed.

It takes maverick website Geen Stijl (no style) to point out that there have been viruses which can take over webcams since 1998. And, it says, funny that the police have not thought to warn virus and internet security experts about this not so new phenomenon.
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2008...ning_is_old.php

Amusingly, the Police may have just let the cat out of the bag concerning their own surveilance methods.

http://www.virusalert.nl/?show=nieuws&id=1443

bytehoven,
I deleted your post, yes. It is clear to me that most Dutch people are not peodophiles selling their children into the sex trade.

Now, had you posted a link to a news article talking about peodophilia and made some rational statements like CERTAIN Dutch people are advocating this, supported by something that is actually substantial, I would have left it.

I am also American, and I also dabble here and there in government conspiracy theories. Trust that I am not in cahoots with the Dutch government. I'll agree with you that the media can and does manipulate the public at certain times, but Expatica is just a small group of internationals trying to provide a service to other internationals. Doesn't get much more interesting than that!

Also, you have clearly been living under a rock if you think Americans have total freedom of speech.

This thread is locked. I have no problems with anyone raising this issue again, as long as it is within the terms and conditions.

Thanks!!!